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cliff. >> behind the scenes negotiations continue today. republicans say they're waiting for the president to outline more spending cuts. the three big issues, tax rates, entitlement reform, medicare and social security, and whether to raise the debt ceiling. we're about to hit it again, and america may need to borrow more. and on those issues at least for now on chilapitol hill, democra seem to think they have the upper hand. that's it for now. >> thanks so much. >>> last night he describes what he says is to use the debt creel as a pawn in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> they see the handwriting on the wall and they're going to have to extend it, and if they don't the whole country will see they were willing to tank the entire economy and give everybody the tax break to give people at the top a bonus. where they're just dead wrong, ed, is thinking they're going to gain leverage over this debt ceiling because the american people are not going to stand for republicans turning right around and threatening to destroy the american economy by
cliff. >> behind the scenes negotiations continue today. republicans say they're waiting for the president to outline more spending cuts. the three big issues, tax rates, entitlement reform, medicare and social security, and whether to raise the debt ceiling. we're about to hit it again, and america may need to borrow more. and on those issues at least for now on chilapitol hill, democra seem to think they have the upper hand. that's it for now. >> thanks so much. >>> last...
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. >>> well, back here at home, fiscal cliff negotiations in washington are still up in the air. most lawmakers have gone home for a long weekend. this, as treasury secretary timothy geithner says the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins us live from washington with app update on all of this. tracie, good morning to you. >> reporter: lynn, not quite empty. a lot of lawmakers on a long weekend break. take a look at some of the frustrated constituents they'll face. a protest in baltimore over social security, not the check but the jobs. the people who work in the offices who fear there could be super long lines for taxpayers if, in fact, their jobs are cut in all of this. so where do we stand today? there's a hearing today on capitol hill. the joint economic committee hearing on what can be done for the fiscal cliff. treasury secretary timothy geithner says the administration is willing to go over the cliff, let taxes go up, let these taxes happen if republicans press the idea of no tax increases for the wealthy. the latest we've lea
. >>> well, back here at home, fiscal cliff negotiations in washington are still up in the air. most lawmakers have gone home for a long weekend. this, as treasury secretary timothy geithner says the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins us live from washington with app update on all of this. tracie, good morning to you. >> reporter: lynn, not quite empty. a lot of lawmakers on a long weekend break. take a look at some of the...
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alan simpson painting a bleak picture behind the scenes of the fiscal cliff negotiations. good morning. this is "way too early." thanks for being up with us this morning. we have a lot to get to on this thursday, december 6. >> including president obama actually making his appeal to business leaders on his tax plan. he's now reaching out following a very tough election campaign. >> and overseas, protests get violent in egypt where the once stable nation appears to be on the verge of crisis. first, let's get to the news live at 5:30 here at 30 rock in new york city. we begin with 25 days to go until the year end fiscal cliff deadline for the first time in days president obama and speaker boehner spoke on the phone yesterday. both men agreeing not to publicly characterize how the conversation went. but the stalemate in negotiations entered bold new territory yesterday with treasury secretary tim geithner suggesting the white house is ready to go off the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the top 2%. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration pre
alan simpson painting a bleak picture behind the scenes of the fiscal cliff negotiations. good morning. this is "way too early." thanks for being up with us this morning. we have a lot to get to on this thursday, december 6. >> including president obama actually making his appeal to business leaders on his tax plan. he's now reaching out following a very tough election campaign. >> and overseas, protests get violent in egypt where the once stable nation appears to be on...
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. >>> back here at home, fiscal cliff negotiations in washington are still up in the air. most lawmakers have gone home for a long weekend break. this as timothy geithner says the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins us live from washington with an update. good morning to you. >> reporter: let's start with geithner. he told cnbc that instead of continuing tax breaks for the wealthy, the obama administration is willing to go over this cliff which means they're willing to let your taxes go up and unemployment checks go away massive spending cuts happen if the pentagon instead of continuing the tax breaks for the wealthy. now there's been very little progress here on chiapitol hill which is why so many have gone home. we know that president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. republican sources telling us they had a conversation yesterday. we don't have a readout on what that was about. we don't know that if any meetings have been scheduled. but any small sign of progress is welcome here on capitol hill. now with so many law
. >>> back here at home, fiscal cliff negotiations in washington are still up in the air. most lawmakers have gone home for a long weekend break. this as timothy geithner says the obama administration is willing to go over the fiscal cliff. nbc's tracie potts joins us live from washington with an update. good morning to you. >> reporter: let's start with geithner. he told cnbc that instead of continuing tax breaks for the wealthy, the obama administration is willing to go over...
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we begin this morning with new urgency in the fiscal cliff negotiations with now just 21 days to reach a deal. that's three weeks. today president obama returns to campaign mode, taking his fiscal cliff message to detroit. yesterday the president and speaker boehner met privately at the white house. their first face-to-face meeting since they agreed last week to clear everyone else out of the negotiating room. neither side revealed anything about the meeting that was part of the agreement. only saying that the lines of communication remain open. but yesterday another influential republican, senator bob corker from the senate banking committee, said his party should consider the president's position on raising tax rates on the wealthy. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate's in the democrats' hands. a lot of people are putting forth a theory, and i actually think it has merit where you go ahead and giv
we begin this morning with new urgency in the fiscal cliff negotiations with now just 21 days to reach a deal. that's three weeks. today president obama returns to campaign mode, taking his fiscal cliff message to detroit. yesterday the president and speaker boehner met privately at the white house. their first face-to-face meeting since they agreed last week to clear everyone else out of the negotiating room. neither side revealed anything about the meeting that was part of the agreement. only...
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cliff negotiations. last night "snl" revealed the real reason the president decided to talk to boehner one-on-one. take a look. >> in order to get the support of the speaker, i agree there would be no tax increases. i repeat, zero tax increases. now why would i do that? i mean, i won the election. i have the leverage. why give in? well, simply put, i felt sorry for this man. early this week i found my way into the congressional cafeteria and what do i see? john boehner sitting by himself. all alone. not a single member of his party willing to share his company. he didn't even have any milk to drink because, well, tell them why -- >> they had taken my milk and grown it in the garbage. >> they took it and lieu it in the garbage. i was so heartbroken to hear this, i said, look, how about this, john. if you agree to a 1% raise on the top two americans, just two people, i will dissolve social security. dissolve it. so he took it to the republicans in congress and what do they do? >> invited me to a pizza part
cliff negotiations. last night "snl" revealed the real reason the president decided to talk to boehner one-on-one. take a look. >> in order to get the support of the speaker, i agree there would be no tax increases. i repeat, zero tax increases. now why would i do that? i mean, i won the election. i have the leverage. why give in? well, simply put, i felt sorry for this man. early this week i found my way into the congressional cafeteria and what do i see? john boehner sitting...
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our next guest explains how the presidential campaign has undermined the fiscal cliff negotiations. we're back in a moment. of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you deserve straight talk about the options on the... table and what they mean for you and your family. ancr: aarp is cutting through all the political spin. because for our 37 million members, only one word counts. get the facts at earnedasay.org. let's keep medicare... and social security strong for generations to come. military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad! dad! [ applause ] ♪ [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. usaa brings advice. call or visit us online. we're ready to help. >>> welcome back to "morning joe" on this wednesday morning. still a little chilly. no big storms in sight at least this week. i'll explain in a second. first things first. windchills, a little ch
our next guest explains how the presidential campaign has undermined the fiscal cliff negotiations. we're back in a moment. of washington about the future of medicare and social security. anncr: but you deserve straight talk about the options on the... table and what they mean for you and your family. ancr: aarp is cutting through all the political spin. because for our 37 million members, only one word counts. get the facts at earnedasay.org. let's keep medicare... and social security strong...
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what do you think of the fiscal cliff negotiations? he was asked. i think they'll work everything out in time for christmas. 76 million hits later. take a look at these two. >> love the cowlick. >> my pacifier. >> my pacifier. >> that's a fun game. >> aw. >> i mean, that is hours of entertainment. i mean, it really is. and remember them? this is the dad who strummed his guitar for his kids. [ laughter ] i had so many people ask us if this was cgi. unmanipulated video. it is pure here. "play of the day." i love these. i love all of you. you can vote for your favorite "play of the day," right now on goodmorningamerica.com on yahoo! the winners will be revealed next week. we'll have more on "gma" live and on yahoo! >>> coming up, inhaling your food. what could go wrong? there's a new ladies' man in town, and he knows to shop at walgreens during the holidays. we have great gifts at great prices, online and in the store. so you're sure to find something for that special someone -- even if you have several special someones. shop walgreens for great gifts,
what do you think of the fiscal cliff negotiations? he was asked. i think they'll work everything out in time for christmas. 76 million hits later. take a look at these two. >> love the cowlick. >> my pacifier. >> my pacifier. >> that's a fun game. >> aw. >> i mean, that is hours of entertainment. i mean, it really is. and remember them? this is the dad who strummed his guitar for his kids. [ laughter ] i had so many people ask us if this was cgi....
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fiscal cliff negotiations appear to be going nowhere. today president obama will meet with members of the business round table. plus, on the economic calendar, the november adp report on employment is due at 8:15 eastern. u.s. equity futures at this hour are indicated higher. not much happened yesterday. it's wednesday, december 5th, 2012, and "squawk box" begins right now.
fiscal cliff negotiations appear to be going nowhere. today president obama will meet with members of the business round table. plus, on the economic calendar, the november adp report on employment is due at 8:15 eastern. u.s. equity futures at this hour are indicated higher. not much happened yesterday. it's wednesday, december 5th, 2012, and "squawk box" begins right now.
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eastern time. >>> in the latest in the fiscal cliff negotiations treasury secretary tim geithner not mincing words in his interview with steve liesman. there was tough talk that came out of this. i was surprised. >> i was, too. couple different interpretations from tim geithner that the white house would go over the cliff unless there's a tax hike on the wealthy, those making more than $250,000. here's the quote people are talking about. i want to understand the administration's position when it comes to raising taxing on the wealthy, those making more than $250,000. if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff in. >> absolutely. there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest, remember it's only 2%. >> on the one hand senator orin hatch called "one of the most stunning and irresponsible statements" he's heard in some time. he says it will put jobs and people's paychecks and retirement at risk. what geithner was state the administration's existing position but just in harshe
eastern time. >>> in the latest in the fiscal cliff negotiations treasury secretary tim geithner not mincing words in his interview with steve liesman. there was tough talk that came out of this. i was surprised. >> i was, too. couple different interpretations from tim geithner that the white house would go over the cliff unless there's a tax hike on the wealthy, those making more than $250,000. here's the quote people are talking about. i want to understand the administration's...
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this has some bearing on this week's debate over the fiscal cliff negotiations because earlier in the week on monday, senator demint put out a press release saying he was opposed to speaker boehner's office of $800 billion in new taxes. that was sort of the brush fire on the right that we saw a resistance to speaker boehner's position. now senator jim demint announces that he's going to step away from the senate entirely. he had already said that he was going to retire, so he would be leaving the senate eventually. and this eases the path a little bit for speaker boehner to continue those negotiations with the president. and we know that boehner and the president had a phone call just yesterday, late in the day, we don't know exactly what they said in those conversations. so that's the news here in the senate. >> it's still happening in a broader narrative, dick armey has had a fallout with his group. we' i wonder does this mark a new chapter in the future of the tea matter? >> absolutely it does, and it marks sort of a post election reckoning among conservative forces generally in wa
this has some bearing on this week's debate over the fiscal cliff negotiations because earlier in the week on monday, senator demint put out a press release saying he was opposed to speaker boehner's office of $800 billion in new taxes. that was sort of the brush fire on the right that we saw a resistance to speaker boehner's position. now senator jim demint announces that he's going to step away from the senate entirely. he had already said that he was going to retire, so he would be leaving...
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he was in the midst of the fiscal cliff negotiations, so hopefully he will tell us how he is protecting these important investments. >> next, a conversation about spurring investment in the marketplace. this is hosted by the center for american progress. this is 55 minutes. >> that is a really tough act to follow. >> for sure. >> we have a challenge. i am al hunt. i am delighted to be here. let me tell you one quick story about our host. when i met neera when she was policy director for hillary clinton and barack obama, i did a column or i refer to her as the sugary ray robinson. he was a pound for pound the greatest boxers. she was the sugar ray robinson of policy record. everytime i see here i say "hi, sugar." >> i was wondering why you said that. >> well, when my younger reporters heard this and it to a colleague "it is just a different generation." i am sorry, sugar. >> well -- andwhat i'm glad you explained that. >> it is terrific to be here. what a great panel. glenn hutchins is the founder of silver lake. he is a tremendous asset at harvard as a great adviser. his real claim to f
he was in the midst of the fiscal cliff negotiations, so hopefully he will tell us how he is protecting these important investments. >> next, a conversation about spurring investment in the marketplace. this is hosted by the center for american progress. this is 55 minutes. >> that is a really tough act to follow. >> for sure. >> we have a challenge. i am al hunt. i am delighted to be here. let me tell you one quick story about our host. when i met neera when she was...
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aides to president and john boehner say they're not going to do the fiscal cliff negotiation through the media and they're doing a really good job on trying to keep a tight lid on how the negotiations are going. outside detroit, president obama issued a warning of what may happen if middle class tax rates go up. if the nation heads over the fiscal cliff. >> consumer spending will go down. that means you've got less customers. businesses get fewer profits. they hire fewer workers. you go on a downward spiral. >> reporter: the president met with house speaker john boehner at the white house. their face-to-face meeting in three weeks. neither side would offer any details from the discussion, which may be a good sign of modest progress. but a spokesman for the republican leader said boehner did not back down. his offer to the white house last week is still the gop's position in the fiscal cliff talks. that plan offers a total of $2.2 trillion in deficit reduction over the next decade, including $800 billion in new tax revenue, but no increases on the top 2% of taxpayers. that's where the
aides to president and john boehner say they're not going to do the fiscal cliff negotiation through the media and they're doing a really good job on trying to keep a tight lid on how the negotiations are going. outside detroit, president obama issued a warning of what may happen if middle class tax rates go up. if the nation heads over the fiscal cliff. >> consumer spending will go down. that means you've got less customers. businesses get fewer profits. they hire fewer workers. you go...
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this fiscal cliff negotiation seems doomed. am i being pessimistic? >> we're basically spending like europeans, but being taxed like americans. at some point you got to decide which you want. basically american government spending now is getting close to norwegian levels. and at that point, you can't have american tax levels. >> brian: what is their level? >> they spend 46% of gdp and people pay that. that's reflected in their taxes. america is basically borrowing $188 million every hour in washington. seven days a week, 24 hours a day, thanksgiving, ramadan, whatever. that gap cannot be closed by sticking to to the rich. >> brian: don't you think the president realizes that or do you think he fully realizes that in. >> oh, yeah, he does. this is the cunning thing. he's going to blame it on the rich, blame it on the republicans. but right now if you're just an average working guy with an average income, your taxes are going to go up because for him -- pour for the president, it's not about the economy. it's about government. it's about the size of gov
this fiscal cliff negotiation seems doomed. am i being pessimistic? >> we're basically spending like europeans, but being taxed like americans. at some point you got to decide which you want. basically american government spending now is getting close to norwegian levels. and at that point, you can't have american tax levels. >> brian: what is their level? >> they spend 46% of gdp and people pay that. that's reflected in their taxes. america is basically borrowing $188 million...
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. >>> first rule of the fiscal cliff talks, don't talk about the fiscal cliff talk. both president obama and speaker boehner are sticking to their mary tore yum to not talk about how negotiations are going, which most analysts say is a good sign. according to the walg street journal, people directly involved say they've taken a recent shift in days with the staff and leaders on both sides are getting more serious. not sure why they weren't in the first place. >>> yesterday in michigan the president said he was open to spending cuts but held firm to raising taxes on the wealthiest americans. >> what you need is a package that keeps tacks where they are for middle-class families, we make some tough spending cuts on things we don't need, and then we ask the wealthiest americans to pay a splietly higher tax rate and that's a sprins pl i won't compromise on because i'm not going to have a situation where the wealthiest among us, including folks like me, get to keep all of our tax breaks and then we're asking students to pay higher student loans. >> ah, but republican sena
. >>> first rule of the fiscal cliff talks, don't talk about the fiscal cliff talk. both president obama and speaker boehner are sticking to their mary tore yum to not talk about how negotiations are going, which most analysts say is a good sign. according to the walg street journal, people directly involved say they've taken a recent shift in days with the staff and leaders on both sides are getting more serious. not sure why they weren't in the first place. >>> yesterday in...
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you for being higher taxes. >> this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> with which i agree but i think the risk here for the gop is that they become the party of rich people. and i think you saw that in the election. i don't think that is their intent. i think their intent is quite sound. >> they are becoming the party of rich white older men. you can't think of any other section of the community right now thinking the republican party is for me. >> i think that is why the politics of this make it possible to go over the cliff. i think the democrats see if we go over the cliff the republicans get blamed. meanwhile. i think the republicans worry about bei ining blamed by a pri contender with the field. that doesn't mean they are obliged to st
you for being higher taxes. >> this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> with which i agree but i think the risk here for the gop is...
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. >> the fiscal cliff creeping closer -- with no visible progress in negotiations between lawmakers. the main sticking point -- democrats wants to cut tax breaks for the wealthy. spending cuts. now, with less than three weeks until a deadline -- the words took a slightly sharper tone on capitol hill. >> a lot of people know that the president and died sat and met on the sunday. it was nice and cordial. -- the president and i-met on sunday but what spending cuts are they going to make to willing to make for the approach? where are the spending cuts? >> what i would do to respond to the speaker is to set the record straight. the fact is that the president has and the democrats have agreed to over 1.5, 1.6 trillion dollars in cuts. the budget control act and other acts of congress. these are what you, mr. speaker have a voted for. >> unless an agreement is reached, the fiscal cliff which is the combination of tax rate increases and automatic trigger budget cuts. are set to kick in at the beginning of next year. >>jacqueline: with the rainfall continue into the north bay. and over rohner
. >> the fiscal cliff creeping closer -- with no visible progress in negotiations between lawmakers. the main sticking point -- democrats wants to cut tax breaks for the wealthy. spending cuts. now, with less than three weeks until a deadline -- the words took a slightly sharper tone on capitol hill. >> a lot of people know that the president and died sat and met on the sunday. it was nice and cordial. -- the president and i-met on sunday but what spending cuts are they going to...
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the fiscal cliff does not seem to be going faster with their negotiations. house speaker spoke. we have four winners today. >> delta airlines is buying a 50% stake in virgin atlanta. this is a big left to right east coast. there are picking up more flights there and this is a premium business. this is a huge win for delta. >> they will be filling a gap, i like it but i am not an investor in airlines. warm bus this stated that he would never buy airline. this helps and delta stocks. >> apple stocks all up by 3 percent. there stating that they have up their numbers from a thousand activation is. at&t analyst added that they have up there activation spot as well. >> your novel iyahoo is up. >> she started to roll out new products and new relationships. this is for nbc. they will maintain separate web sites. this gives nbc college cover and there was a new e-mail product they're rolled out. the mill usage is down across the nation because of people taxi and 24texting ang twitter. >> there is a ugly chapter on wall street about the 2008 bailout. people freaked out when eight i g get
the fiscal cliff does not seem to be going faster with their negotiations. house speaker spoke. we have four winners today. >> delta airlines is buying a 50% stake in virgin atlanta. this is a big left to right east coast. there are picking up more flights there and this is a premium business. this is a huge win for delta. >> they will be filling a gap, i like it but i am not an investor in airlines. warm bus this stated that he would never buy airline. this helps and delta stocks....
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but looked at strictly economically, forget the politics here, forget fiscal cliff, forget negotiations. you just look economically, raise taxes, you don't get all the money you think you are going to bring in. >> brian: real quick, kevin mccarthy, one of the young guns, was on "metropolitan the press" and said, good news. revenues are up 10%. that's because we seem to be turning around economically. here is the bad news, spending is up 16%. why? he's trying to explain to a very reluctant david gregory, why should we consider raising tax when is clearly the revenue is up, but the spending is up higher? >> the president wants to raise tax rates on people making more than 250,000. he thinks that will bring in $82 billion in one year. the experience of california and other countries is that you will not bring in $82 billion. you bring in less. >> brian: sadly, it's just about getting a trophy and saying i told you i would do it. >> that's the politics of it. >> brian: varney and company might want to pick this up at 9:20 eastern time. >> always take your advice. >> brian: i'll put it in wr
but looked at strictly economically, forget the politics here, forget fiscal cliff, forget negotiations. you just look economically, raise taxes, you don't get all the money you think you are going to bring in. >> brian: real quick, kevin mccarthy, one of the young guns, was on "metropolitan the press" and said, good news. revenues are up 10%. that's because we seem to be turning around economically. here is the bad news, spending is up 16%. why? he's trying to explain to a very...
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this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans, larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate is because, come the fiscal cliff moment, that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> speaking as a reagan conservative, i must say i rather agree with you. probably shouldn't. but i do. i think divided government is very difficult. and there's some principles that speaker boehner is fighting for, with which i actually agree. but i think politically, the risk here for the gop, is they've become the party of rich people. and they give up the middle-class to the democrats. and i think you saw some of that in the presidential election. i don't think that's their intent. i think their tax reform intent is quite sound. but the way this is playing out, i think that's a big risk for them. >> they're becoming the party of rich, white, older men, is
this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans, larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate is because, come the fiscal cliff moment, that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> speaking as a reagan conservative, i must say i rather...
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. >>> we're 23 days and counting until the nation falls off the fiscal cliff. president obama and house speaker boehner are going mano e mano in negotiations. >> let's bring in george stephanopoulos. george, i'm going to ask this question until this thing is over. >> we had another week of massive trash-talking, are we closer or further away from getting a deal? >> it's hard to know. but they're not really talking right now. that's what's most incredible. you pointed out that there were speeches all week long. symbolic votes in the senate. lot of brinksmanship. lot of ads on television. less than an hour of actual negotiating. one phone call between john boehner, house peeker and the president. democrats say they're not going to move until the republicans say they're going to be for higher tax rates on the wealthy. and then say what they want in return. in terms of spending cuts for those higher tax rates. the republicans say they aren't going to come forward until the democrats say more about how they want to cut spending. right now, we're stuck. now, it could
. >>> we're 23 days and counting until the nation falls off the fiscal cliff. president obama and house speaker boehner are going mano e mano in negotiations. >> let's bring in george stephanopoulos. george, i'm going to ask this question until this thing is over. >> we had another week of massive trash-talking, are we closer or further away from getting a deal? >> it's hard to know. but they're not really talking right now. that's what's most incredible. you pointed...
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well, with 25 days to go until the year-end fiscal cliff deadline, president obama and speaker boehner spoke on the phone yesterday for the first time in days. both men agreed not to publicly characterize how the conversation went. but the stalemate in negotiations entered new territory yesterday with treasury secretary tim geithner suggesting the white house is ready to go off the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the 2%. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans -- remember, it's only 2%. the size of the problem in some sense is so large, it can't be solved without rates going up as part of that. again, i think there's broad recognition of that reality now. >> one fallback option republicans are reportedly considering is to accept tax cuts for the middle class, allow rates to go up for the wealthiest, and then start the fight over again during debt limit talks early next
well, with 25 days to go until the year-end fiscal cliff deadline, president obama and speaker boehner spoke on the phone yesterday for the first time in days. both men agreed not to publicly characterize how the conversation went. but the stalemate in negotiations entered new territory yesterday with treasury secretary tim geithner suggesting the white house is ready to go off the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the 2%. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the...
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. >>> president obama on the road today trying to sell his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. mr. obama speaks to workers at an engine factory near detroit this afternoon. yesterday the president and house speaker john boehner met at the white house for a round of intense negotiations. there are new signs republicans are willing to go along with the president on hypertaxigher taxee wealthy. >> we have spent ourselves into a hole. will i accept a tax increase as part of a deal to actually solve our problem, yes. >> senator coburn says in return, republicans would get significant reform of entitlement programs. >> at least the two are sort of together, speaking, without cameras around. >> right. >> so they can get work done. >> the difference between the last meeting, they're not coming out and sort of saying, well, they're not budging. they're not budging. they sort of cam out and said we are not going to talk about it. a good sign too. >> i hope so. sort of riff di >>> tension is building in egypt. morsi ordered the military to keep the peace. thousand gathered outside the preside
. >>> president obama on the road today trying to sell his plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. mr. obama speaks to workers at an engine factory near detroit this afternoon. yesterday the president and house speaker john boehner met at the white house for a round of intense negotiations. there are new signs republicans are willing to go along with the president on hypertaxigher taxee wealthy. >> we have spent ourselves into a hole. will i accept a tax increase as part of a deal to...
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cliff talk. what surprised us off the record behind the scenes, democrats and republicans agree they should be doing a lot more than they're talking about as part of the current negotiations. they said if you did more on tax reform and particularly on the corporate side and more on social security as far as limiting the growth of that program, more on medicare, if you did something to exploit this oil and gas boom that we're seeing in north dakota, texas and across the country, if you did more to get high skilled immigrants into town, you could not only have an economic recovery but an economic boom. there's a lot of agreement off the record on this, but that politicians on both sides are scared to go out there and be the first to say, hey, let's do these big things that could have an appreciable effect on the economy. >> steve, do you agree with that assessment? what are the big things that need to be done? >> i totally agree. the thing that's depressing about the fiscal cliff plan, we will chan
cliff talk. what surprised us off the record behind the scenes, democrats and republicans agree they should be doing a lot more than they're talking about as part of the current negotiations. they said if you did more on tax reform and particularly on the corporate side and more on social security as far as limiting the growth of that program, more on medicare, if you did something to exploit this oil and gas boom that we're seeing in north dakota, texas and across the country, if you did more...